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[Hanaldo]

Bingo ^

[Nic_A31]

Fuck it....its an R34 GT+T

and fuck the turbo timer off, you don't need it. You have a water+oil cooled turbo, even prolonged use on mid-high boost, you don't need any more than 10 seconds to cool down...that's not counting the cool down time it would already get when you park it up, put windows up, take CD player face off and put it away, find wallet+phone, etc....unless you're on 15PSI for 20+ minutes right up until the very second you park the car...the turbo timer...is...useless.
Turbo timers make a mess off your ignition, if it gets stolen, depending on its setup, could immobalize your car. It's also illegal for a list of very good reasons.

Be done with it

[Hanaldo]

It's not a GT+T, that would be a turbocharged RB25DE

I'm not removing the turbo timer, end of story. I believe in them, I've seen first hand evidence of what happens when you do not use them. Water and oil cooled so it may be, it is still spinning in excess of 50000rpm. Anything spinning that fast is going to produce a hell of a lot of heat. If you don't circulate the oil through that to cool it down, it's going to coke the oil. And I've seen it happen.

Besides, I don't like being beaten by things. If something doesn't work, I find out why and I fix it, I don't give up on it. I have removed the turbo timer to inspect it, car still works fine, so I'm not worried about it being stolen and immobilizing my car.

[Tiddy]

inspect it good
sure do hope u dont have coke oil

[NA_Goodness]

I've tried the coke oil. Turns out what is good to drink isnt good for your engine

[Hanaldo]

Lol coked oil means baked oil. Essentially oil deposits.

Rhys... why have you tried coke oil? lol

[NA_Goodness]

Rhys... why have you tried coke oil? lol

*Face palm*

[Hanaldo]

It was a joke dude lol

[NA_Goodness]

Yes, exactly! Oh wait, you were joking too!

I need sleep

[2LV8ETR]

I believe in them

Like you did with KYP?

How'd that turn out for you?

I hope you can prove us all wrong, even though we don't use them and haven't had any issues yet, and never will because we know how to drive normally for 30 seconds to a minute before turning our cars off after boosting for 30 minutes non-stop on 30psi.

What will you do next time the bacon pulls you over and you refuse to turn your car off just in case your turbo melts? Are you prepared to cop a defect or turn off the ignition and watch as your super-duper turbine melts like thermite through the road and into the ground water, taking with it the coked oil and contaminating our water supply for the next 48 years?

Just think, if they were that vital, wouldn't turbocharged cars come from the factory with timers? Maybe that's because car companies are too stingy to fork out an extra $50.00 into the manufacturing budget so they can use it to fund a secret club where they have special handshakes and secret decoder rings. I bet they even have secret passwords like "flooggleopplegopjobbawopwop".

And speaking of Flooggleopplegopjobbawopwops, I saw one the other day in a fully sick Commodore with an authentic exhaust whistle turbo. Sounded like the real deal too, and he had a turbo timer on that just in case his plastic impeller melted and stained the inside of his 7" exhaust tip.

Actually dude, you may be on to something here......

I'm going to book an appointment with KYP to get a supercharger timer on my son's bicycle. Just in case he forgets to peddle normally for 7.62262 seconds before throwing his kickstand down.

[Tiddy]

hahahahah holy shit, what a post!

[Nic_A31]

Turbo's spin anywhere up to 400'000rpm (aftermarket turbo's)
You've got a stock GTT motor, stock turbo, stock boost.....Nissan surely would have thought to use a turbo timer if it needed one.
Regardless, turbo timers directly breach the ADRs and are an on the spot yellow sticker...even built into the alarm, they're still a no go.

Do realise, that your turbo housing is made to withstand temperatures well over 1000 degrees Celsius, as it is fed dirctly from the exhaust manifold.
Running some slightly hot oil through it, won't kill it. Oil takes ~6 hours to cool down, so if anything 30-230 seconds won't help anyway, oil (even WITH an external cooler) doesn't cool down that quickly, and even if it does, again, your turbo it designed to cope with such rapid heat changes.

Not trying to flame your decision dude, but turbo timers cause endless problems and do absolutely nothing for street cars apart from impress the ladies.

[NA_Goodness]

He's bored! Lol

[Hanaldo]

Like you did with KYP?

How'd that turn out for you?

I hope you can prove us all wrong, even though we don't use them and haven't had any issues yet, and never will because we know how to drive normally for 30 seconds to a minute before turning our cars off after boosting for 30 minutes non-stop on 30psi.

What will you do next time the bacon pulls you over and you refuse to turn your car off just in case your turbo melts? Are you prepared to cop a defect or turn off the ignition and watch as your super-duper turbine melts like thermite through the road and into the ground water, taking with it the coked oil and contaminating our water supply for the next 48 years?

Just think, if they were that vital, wouldn't turbocharged cars come from the factory with timers? Maybe that's because car companies are too stingy to fork out an extra $50.00 into the manufacturing budget so they can use it to fund a secret club where they have special handshakes and secret decoder rings. I bet they even have secret passwords like "flooggleopplegopjobbawopwop".

And speaking of Flooggleopplegopjobbawopwops, I saw one the other day in a fully sick Commodore with an authentic exhaust whistle turbo. Sounded like the real deal too, and he had a turbo timer on that just in case his plastic impeller melted and stained the inside of his 7" exhaust tip.

Actually dude, you may be on to something here......

I'm going to book an appointment with KYP to get a supercharger timer on my son's bicycle. Just in case he forgets to peddle normally for 7.62262 seconds before throwing his kickstand down.

You're right. If I get defected for ANYTHING, it's going to be my turbo timer. Not my boost controller, my adjustable coilovers, my FMIC, my HID's, my loud as fuck exhaust, or my illegal turbocharged engine in a car that is registered as an RB25DE. Seriously Allen, come on.. You're playing the "it's defectable" card? After pledging your beliefs that permits are not worth the paper they are written on because if a cop wants to sticker you then they are going to find something to sticker you for?

Seriously, what's the big deal? I'm not trying to put a submarine turbine on my car. It's a turbo timer. Which actually DOES come from factory on some R34's and Stagea's (and probably lots of other cars), it is a factory option.

[Hanaldo]

Turbo's spin anywhere up to 400'000rpm (aftermarket turbo's)
You've got a stock GTT motor, stock turbo, stock boost.....Nissan surely would have thought to use a turbo timer if it needed one.
Regardless, turbo timers directly breach the ADRs and are an on the spot yellow sticker...even built into the alarm, they're still a no go.

Do realise, that your turbo housing is made to withstand temperatures well over 1000 degrees Celsius, as it is fed dirctly from the exhaust manifold.
Running some slightly hot oil through it, won't kill it. Oil takes ~6 hours to cool down, so if anything 30-230 seconds won't help anyway, oil (even WITH an external cooler) doesn't cool down that quickly, and even if it does, again, your turbo it designed to cope with such rapid heat changes.

Not trying to flame your decision dude, but turbo timers cause endless problems and do absolutely nothing for street cars apart from impress the ladies.

Not about running the hot oil through the turbo, it's about making that oil stop moving while the center cartridge is still hot. Try this, take some engine oil, and put it on a pan. Heat it up to 1000 degrees, and see what happens to it. Then put that solidified oil in a small hose see how much normal oil flows through it.

The damage is caused by solidified oil being deposited in the oil lines going to the turbo, restricting the flow of new oil into the turbo. Rather like a heart attack.

This makes sense to me, I don't care if you guys don't believe it. I'm not trying to be awesome by putting neons and a fake bov on my car. I'm trying to do what I believe will aid the maintenance of my car.

As I mentioned before, Tom is a diesel mechanic, he has had to replace a few turbos that failed because the driver didn't idle the car/truck. You really think those drivers were running 30psi and boosting around everywhere, then switching the engine off while still boosting the turbo?

By the way, I know plenty of smokers that don't have cancer yet... Doesn't mean they won't get it. Just sayin.

[2LV8ETR]

Not about running the hot oil through the turbo, it's about making that oil stop moving while the center cartridge is still hot.

That's what an oil return line to the sump does, drains the oil from the turbo. Even still, DICKHEADS who don't idle down for 30 seconds to a minute will suffer the consequences. Simple plain english. What your mate is also not telling you is that the other 6,827,922 turbos he comes across are fine because 99.9999% of the population know how to listen, and idle down correctly before shutting down after driving up a 10km long hill with 700 tons of cargo.

You're right, I don't give a fuck about mod permits anymore because dickhead cops still defect me for my legally modified items even after producing the permit. I'm not playing the defect card here, I'm letting you know that a turbo timer ticking away unnecessarily for 3 minutes in your car while a cop is talking to you after pulling you over, will automatically tell the cop to look the car over because he's not that fucking stupid to not know that a turbo timer is an illegal modification. Especially if he's in a bad mood because his 300lb wife refused to blow him, and henpecked him about the skidmarks in his Y-fronts.

Some of the mods you described above can be made legal as long as they are installed correctly by the way. Just in case you again want to dispute that statement, check the ADR's and find out for yourself. As an example, I have a mod permit for my FMIC, and a BOV. If you can make it out on a cruise, I'll pull it out and show you.

Ooh, also. Are you aware that a lot of modifications must be made to imported cars to ensure that they meet the ADR requirements? Just ask a RAWS approved workshop what they have to do to comply a Skyline, or any vehicle for that matter. I came across quite a few things that had to be done to mine when it was imported. Some mobs can get away with a few things, while some don't. It depends on the inspector, but if he wanted to press the fact, the timer would have to be removed. They are illegal in WA.

You're telling guys who build cars from the ground up that you know better, even though we have applied our hands and minds to what we do, and we have no need for a mechanic because of the simple fact that we know what we're doing. If we didn't know anything, our cars wouldn't make it out of our driveways and we'd have to steal from people or sell drugs to fund our habit of destroying our cars from lack of competence.

Nobody's disputing your obsessive need for your little toy dude, we're just letting you know that it's not vital. You're taking it personally like you have with every single piece of advice that someone has tried to give you in this entire thread. You either take it, or you don't. That's your choice. But the fact remains, it's not a vital piece of equipment and it's merely wank factor. You should accept that instead of denying it and insisting that you MUST have one or your car will melt.

I don't criticise people for having these things in their cars, in fact I have installed many for people over the years. They are just not needed. If someone asks me if they should get a a timer, I tell them the truth which is exactly what I have stated before, and they sometimes listen and forgo the expense. I have also removed another member's timer for the simple fact that it was a pain in the arse to him and after hearing what I had to say, agreed and asked me to fuck it off for him. His turbo still hasn't melted yet.

Enjoy your toy dude, really. If it floats your boat and gives you a hard on, then power to you. I hope it works out for you.

[NA_Goodness]

I have one, have been pulled over a few times, the car is never running when they get to my car. I rarely let mine run the whole way through, but it's a case of better being safe then sorry.
I let it run on cruises mainly. An extra minute of cool down isn't going to hurt, is it?

[Hanaldo]

That's what an oil return line to the sump does, drains the oil from the turbo. Even still, DICKHEADS who don't idle down for 30 seconds to a minute will suffer the consequences. Simple plain english. What your mate is also not telling you is that the other 6,827,922 turbos he comes across are fine because 99.9999% of the population know how to listen, and idle down correctly before shutting down after driving up a 10km long hill with 700 tons of cargo.

You're right, I don't give a fuck about mod permits anymore because dickhead cops still defect me for my legally modified items even after producing the permit. I'm not playing the defect card here, I'm letting you know that a turbo timer ticking away unnecessarily for 3 minutes in your car while a cop is talking to you after pulling you over, will automatically tell the cop to look the car over because he's not that fucking stupid to not know that a turbo timer is an illegal modification. Especially if he's in a bad mood because his 300lb wife refused to blow him, and henpecked him about the skidmarks in his Y-fronts.

Some of the mods you described above can be made legal as long as they are installed correctly by the way. Just in case you again want to dispute that statement, check the ADR's and find out for yourself. As an example, I have a mod permit for my FMIC, and a BOV. If you can make it out on a cruise, I'll pull it out and show you.

Ooh, also. Are you aware that a lot of modifications must be made to imported cars to ensure that they meet the ADR requirements? Just ask a RAWS approved workshop what they have to do to comply a Skyline, or any vehicle for that matter. I came across quite a few things that had to be done to mine when it was imported. Some mobs can get away with a few things, while some don't. It depends on the inspector, but if he wanted to press the fact, the timer would have to be removed. They are illegal in WA.

You're telling guys who build cars from the ground up that you know better, even though we have applied our hands and minds to what we do, and we have no need for a mechanic because of the simple fact that we know what we're doing. If we didn't know anything, our cars wouldn't make it out of our driveways and we'd have to steal from people or sell drugs to fund our habit of destroying our cars from lack of competence.

Nobody's disputing your obsessive need for your little toy dude, we're just letting you know that it's not vital. You're taking it personally like you have with every single piece of advice that someone has tried to give you in this entire thread. You either take it, or you don't. That's your choice. But the fact remains, it's not a vital piece of equipment and it's merely wank factor. You should accept that instead of denying it and insisting that you MUST have one or your car will melt.

I don't criticise people for having these things in their cars, in fact I have installed many for people over the years. They are just not needed. If someone asks me if they should get a a timer, I tell them the truth which is exactly what I have stated before, and they sometimes listen and forgo the expense. I have also removed another member's timer for the simple fact that it was a pain in the arse to him and after hearing what I had to say, agreed and asked me to fuck it off for him. His turbo still hasn't melted yet.

Enjoy your toy dude, really. If it floats your boat and gives you a hard on, then power to you. I hope it works out for you.

Ok Allen, I feel like I have to clarify because I sound like a spoiled child again, this is why I hate talking on the internet lol. I haven't taken anything personally, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I acknowledge that you're probably right. I was just expressing my opinion on the matter. I don't think I know better than you do dude, I would just rather go down this path for my own piece of mind, not because I want to do it in spite of you. I know it's not vital, I know it's not a matter of life and death for the turbo. But if there is a chance that it extends the life of my turbo by even 5000kms, I'm gonna do it.

I can always rip it out later if I change my mind, but at this stage I have already bought the timer, I have already paid to have it installed, it would be a complete waste for me to rip it out and trash it without trying to fix it.

I don't plan on setting the thing to 10 minutes and leaving it there. I usually set it between 20-30 seconds depending on how hard I've been driving it. I've never seen a cop get to my car within 20 seconds of pulling me over, they usually take half an hour getting their ass out of their car.

I have one, have been pulled over a few times, the car is never running when they get to my car. I rarely let mine run the whole way through, but it's a case of better being safe then sorry.
I let it run on cruises mainly. An extra minute of cool down isn't going to hurt, is it?

This.

[NA_Goodness]

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